Quoted from brian

Apart from the fact that they are Westminster independents and therefore have no relevance to local elected persons, what difference do two independents make when it comes to a vote.

I don't understand, how do they have no relevance to local elected persons?

Quoted from user23.3

I don't understand, how do they have no relevance to local elected persons?

Perhaps you could explain your understanding of two persons elected to Westminster influencing WBC elected council. I'm sure I would find this most helpful.

Quoted from brian

Perhaps you could explain your understanding of two persons elected to Westminster influencing WBC elected council. I'm sure I would find this most helpful.

I am sure he will have an answer.

Come on chaps....if you want to get rid of the Useless Tories and their anti-business cohorts our chance will come in 2 years.

By then, Park Way will be a new town centre lake.

I've got another pledge...no more cinema subsidies.

Quoted from Muddler

Come on chaps....if you want to get rid of the Useless Tories and their anti-business cohorts our chance will come in 2 years.

And replace them with what, exactly?

Quoted from brian

Perhaps you could explain your understanding of two persons elected to Westminster influencing WBC elected council. I'm sure I would find this most helpful.

I was using these two as an example that it is possible for an independent to be elected to Westminster. I hope you understand now but please do ask more questions if you wish.

Quoted from whingewhingewhinge

And replace them with what, exactly?

A regime that caters for the views of local business to the detriment of the citizens of West Berkshire it would seem.

Quoted from user23.3

I was using these two as an example that it is possible for an independent to be elected to Westminster. I hope you understand now but please do ask more questions if you wish..

I had grasped that but as we are talking about local government and the pointless party divisions at local level, I ask again, what has the election of two independents to Westminster got to do with a possible non partisan local election.

Quoted from brian

I had grasped that but as we are talking about local government and the pointless party divisions at local level, I ask again, what has the election of two independents to Westminster got to do with a possible non partisan local election.

We were talking about affiliation to political parties both at local level and in Westminster, the election of two independents has everything to do with this.

Do you not remember typing this?

Quoted from brian

We then get, at election time, a flag pinned to the mast of a Westminster party. The electorate are now voting for their chosen Westminster political party and not an individual.
Once the elections have finished, the various boys and girls count their score to see who will have the power and who, the losers, will become the opposition.
The people in Westminster seem to need this wasteful division as it helps them to work out if they will win or lose the next general election.

Wiser than they knew...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....from=PL&index=12


The first couple of mins covers it...



Threep.

Quoted from user23.3

Do you not remember typing this?

Of course I do so how do the independents fit into this scenario, they do not have a mast to pin a flag to. Now if all MPs were independent, that would be a different matter but there are three major parties and the local candidates call themselve by the name of their chosen party and the electorate vote based on their liking for that party. That is why we do not get Labour councillors in Newbury because not enough people in Newbury like the Labour party no matter how good a local candidate they may be.