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blackdog
December 1, 2009, 6:54pm Report to Moderator

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Seems quite reasonable, bearing in mind the support for the plans back in 2007.


But the plans were different in 2007, to the extent that there is no valid reason for building this large building in the park. Apart from the cafe, a small store, and the big TV there is nothing in this building that could not be built in a far more convenient spot on one of the car parks behind the library or museum.

In 2007 they told us the pavilion would be it - no more buildings on the park. Now they are saying that they will be adding another building to provide changing facilities (which were part of the original proposal). A changing facility will need toilets - so why not add a cafe and build a far smaller structure in a central (more convenient) location?

The only reasons this building in being put in the park are 1) financial - the land is cheap (free) and 2) vanity - they are simply incapable of admitting they are wrong.
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Quoted from blackdog


But the plans were different in 2007, to the extent that there is no valid reason for building this large building in the park. Apart from the cafe, a small store, and the big TV there is nothing in this building that could not be built in a far more convenient spot on one of the car parks behind the library or museum.

In 2007 they told us the pavilion would be it - no more buildings on the park. Now they are saying that they will be adding another building to provide changing facilities (which were part of the original proposal). A changing facility will need toilets - so why not add a cafe and build a far smaller structure in a central (more convenient) location?

The only reasons this building in being put in the park are 1) financial - the land is cheap (free) and 2) vanity - they are simply incapable of admitting they are wrong.
I haven't seen one suggestion for where it should go if not in the park. Any ideas?

It needs to be in the centre of town by the canal.
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blackdog
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I haven't seen one suggestion for where it should go if not in the park. Any ideas?

It needs to be in the centre of town by the canal.


Why does it need to be by the canal? Nothing going on inside it has anything to do with the canal.

If it were my decision to make I would put it behind the museum and incorporate the extension/storage space the museum needs.  An arts centre and museum would fit well together.
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Why does it need to be by the canal? Nothing going on inside it has anything to do with the canal.

If it were my decision to make I would put it behind the museum and incorporate the extension/storage space the museum needs.  An arts centre and museum would fit well together.
For water based activities like canoeing, run from the centre.
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blackdog
December 1, 2009, 7:14pm Report to Moderator

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For water based activities like canoeing, run from the centre.

The canoeing etc is being moved to Northcroft - there are no watersports facilities in the pavilion plans.
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Greenham Common
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Yes from the time of the sketchy plans, to now, the project has been hijacked.
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blackdog
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Yes from the time of the sketchy plans, to now, the project has been hijacked.


No it hasn't - the same people are pulling the strings. The difference is that the 2007 consultation didn't need to worry about the cost so much.  Inevitably the proposals were a) too expensive and b) generated concern at such a large structure in the park.  

So they water it down, shrink it 30% (moving some of the functionality to a second building - remember the pavilion was to be the only building on the park, no more would be needed). Then they leave out the popular feature that would have allowed live outdoor events to be staged there.  

Of course they leave in the OTT costs of an architecturally unusual building - but, what the heck, it will be a nice addition to Sutton Griffin's portfolio.
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Greenham Common
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The reason I say hijacked, is that New Greenham Park seem to have 'moved in'.
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The reason I say hijacked, is that New Greenham Park seem to have 'moved in'.
Is there something wrong with people from Greenham wanting to have a say in how things in Newbury are run?
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Greenham Common
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Is there something wrong with people from Greenham wanting to have a say in how things in Newbury are run?

No, what do you think?
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brian
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I haven't seen one suggestion for where it should go if not in the park. Any ideas?

It needs to be in the centre of town by the canal.


Let me see, where is there a building which would be ideally suited for most of the activities planned for the Pavilion, Oh and is close to the canal.

EUREKA!!!!  It's the Waterside.

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Is there something wrong with people from Greenham wanting to have a say in how things in Newbury are run?


It wouldn't be if their motives were not so commercial, getting rid of the arts from their portfolio.
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Der Untergang spoofs are all over 'net like a rash........but only this one is relevant to WBC and Co. though



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That is excellent...very funny (expecting a reciprocal clip any time soon)!  

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