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A major power failure is currently affecting shops and businesses in the southern half of the town.

The area affected includes The Kennet Centre, Bartholomew Street, Cheap Street, Market Street, the Market Place and the Wharf.

The power went off just after 9.20am this morning. A recorded message indicates that the fault may take 2 to 3 hours to rectify.
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A major power failure is currently affecting shops and businesses in the southern half of the town.

The area affected includes The Kennet Centre, Bartholomew Street, Cheap Street, Market Street, the Market Place and the Wharf.


Someone been pinching copper again?
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When I went round the wharf lunchtime, all the arms were missing from the barriers. Free parking I thought but I suppose they were removed because of the power failure. There was a green meanie leaning on the fence, staring wistfully into the park behind the museum but what could he do, people were just driving straight past him.
The electric was back on when I went round but I had parked in the short term and paid my pound before I noticed the free parking. Ah well, makes up for the illegal half hour I had the other day.

By the way, no more moaning about WBC not giving us any free parking. They have just donated a whole morning on a Thursday as well.
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Sainsbury's were affected too
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[quote=9] Ah well, makes up for the illegal half hour I had the other

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[quote=9] Ah well, makes up for the illegal half hour I had the other

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Yes, thanks for that, as it happens, I forgot to put a ticket on my vehicle the other day when I went over the park with my missus and grandson to sail my model boat. I got my parking ticket from one of your lot, five minutes after I parked. Thanks very much but I deserved it, we all got carried away with the excitement of the pond being empty and reasonably clean. Only money after all, who cares if it keeps someone in a job.
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Its funny, I wish someone would just say "I couldn't be bothered to buy a ticket and I got caught."  Wishful thinking I suppose.

From the moment we as CEOs first observe a vehicle without a valid ticket and punch the number in, our magic handhelds make us wait 5 whole minutes before we can begin the issuing process.  Unless the warden was standing next to your vehicle as you arrived and walked away, then I would suggest that you were parked a little longer than five minutes before you received a fine.  But anyway, that's irrelevant.  You are aware that you need a ticket, its just this time you didn't get one and got caught.
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Yes, thanks for that, as it happens, I forgot to put a ticket on my vehicle the other day when I went over the park with my missus and grandson to sail my model boat. I got my parking ticket from one of your lot, five minutes after I parked. Thanks very much but I deserved it, we all got carried away with the excitement of the pond being empty and reasonably clean. Only money after all, who cares if it keeps someone in a job.
Funny how everyone's only been there five minutes, or five minutes past when their ticket expired, when they get a parking ticket.

Looks like from what meanie is saying this is unlikely to be true.
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Funny how everyone's only been there five minutes, or five minutes past when their ticket expired, when they get a parking ticket.

Looks like from what meanie is saying this is unlikely to be true.


There's nothing stopping a CEO from entering a number before someone has parked and left the vehicle!    But I agree, I suspect that 5 minutes means more often than not, 10-15 minutes.
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Its funny, I wish someone would just say "I couldn't be bothered to buy a ticket and I got caught."  Wishful thinking I suppose.



How about "I couldn't be bothered to buy a ticket - and I never got caught"  
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Its funny, I wish someone would just say "I couldn't be bothered to buy a ticket and I got caught."  Wishful thinking I suppose.

From the moment we as CEOs first observe a vehicle without a valid ticket and punch the number in, our magic handhelds make us wait 5 whole minutes before we can begin the issuing process.  Unless the warden was standing next to your vehicle as you arrived and walked away, then I would suggest that you were parked a little longer than five minutes before you received a fine.  But anyway, that's irrelevant.  You are aware that you need a ticket, its just this time you didn't get one and got caught.


I arrived at the wharf car park at 17:05. I remember looking at the time as I parked. The ticket shows observed from 17:10 to 17:16. so, green meanie was on the ball. I got back to my car at 18:30 and as I walked over the now closed bridge I suddenly remembered I hadn't paid. It's a fair cop and I'm not complaining although I was a little peeved at the time, with myself that is. The chap in front of me had a ticket as well but I think he had over run his time. (CEO 09).

If I had purchased 2 hours at 17:05 would that mean that I could have stayed for the rest of the night or would I have to go back at 18:00 and put another pound in for the evening parking.
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The only ticket I have got was under similar circumstances.  I parked and while walking to get a ticket, I was distracted by something and continued on my way.  I did not intend not to buy a ticket.  Had at the time the car park had been a pay on exit, I would not have made this error, but the biggest problem I have is the size of the penalty for not paying and displaying, which seems wholly out of proportion to the 'offence'.
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The only ticket I have got was under similar circumstances.  I parked and while walking to get a ticket, I was distracted by something and continued on my way.  I did not intend not to buy a ticket.  Had at the time the car park had been a pay on exit, I would not have made this error, but the biggest problem I have is the size of the penalty for not paying and displaying, which seems wholly out of proportion to the 'offence'.


Well, it's £50:00 but they have a special offer that will give you a 50% discount making it £25:00. That's a good deal two for the price of one. There is a heavy wages burden on WBC to pay the CEO's wages and overheads so it's only fair that we should pay the price. Just think on, the council could install a bollard under each parking space that comes up and smashes your transmission or the sump pan if you dare to park illegaly.
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Well, it's £50:00 but they have a special offer that will give you a 50% discount making it £25:00. That's a good deal two for the price of one.

Remind me how much a ticket would cost?  A £1.00?  Few institutions would get away with a 2,500% 'interest rate'.
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Remind me how much a ticket would cost?  A £1.00?  Few institutions would get away with a 2,500% 'interest rate'.


Yes, but when you have been naughty you have to be punished. I'm sure that User would see it as fair.
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Can someone remind me what we pay our 'rates' towards...there that opens up a can of worms doesn't it!
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Can someone remind me what we pay our 'rates' towards...there that opens up a can of worms doesn't it!


Well I hope it is not to subsidise illegal parking.
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Well I hope it is not to subsidise illegal parking.
Calling it illegal is a little harsh, however I'd rather not pay my "rates" to subsidise people's parking on land that could be sold for housing or business premises which would possibly bring in more income and reduce our Council Tax benefiting everyone in West Berkshire.
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Can someone remind me what we pay our 'rates' towards...there that opens up a can of worms doesn't it!


Well I hope it is not to subsidise illegal parking.
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Can someone remind me what we pay our 'rates' towards...there that opens up a can of worms doesn't it!

What do you mean by rates?  If you mean council tax, then it is a contribution towards the cost of: the police service, fire service, recycling service, refuse collection and removal, schools, leisure centres, parks and open spaces, street cleaning, subsidising of public transport, tourism, museums, social housing grants, housing and council tax benefits, environmental health and food safety in pubs, restaurants and shops, planning services, support for voluntary groups, meals on wheels, facilities for young people, adapting homes for disabled people, play centres for children, cctv installation, sports facilities, issuing taxi licences, flood defences, allotment supervision, amongst other things.
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Well I hope it is not to subsidise illegal parking.


As we are supposed to be trying to reduce the dependence on the motor car would it not be an idea to insist if any new shop or business opens then they supply parking for customers on their own land if they deem parking necessary? Councils would not have to supply any parking at all. This applies to new housing would it not work for traders as well? Just a thought?  

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Calling it illegal is a little harsh, however I'd rather not pay my "rates" to subsidise people's parking on land that could be sold for housing or business premises which would possibly bring in more income and reduce our Council Tax benefiting everyone in West Berkshire.


Are you talking about the wharf by any chance as that is another ill conceived WBC scheme for the future.

The wharf car park has at a guess 40 spaces at £1.00 per hour and it is full most days, will collect about £2,500 per week. This includes the unknown number of £1.00 payers who only stay 20 minutes and includes a bit for evening parking. I'm sure parking fines add £300.00 per week so about £2,800 in total. That's not a subsidy really is it. We also have to bear in mind that shop owners pay rates and there is a financial advantage to WBC to keep them in business and one of the ways of doing this is to ensure that customers can get to them by providing convenient parking.



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As we are supposed to be trying to reduce the dependence on the motor car would it not be an idea to insist if any new shop or business opens then they supply parking for customers on their own land if they deem parking necessary? Councils would not have to supply any parking at all. This applies to new housing would it not work for traders as well? Just a thought?


Funny thing there, just think about it, the parkway development has a great hole in the ground, guess what that's for and isn't there a great area alongside Sainsbury's and in the Kennet centre and behind Camp Hopson's.
Of course totally unrealistic if I wanted to start a new business in the High Street so I have to walk away from that up to the top of the hill where they provide a customers car park.
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Are you talking about the wharf by any chance as that is another ill conceived WBC scheme for the future.
I'm talking about all of them.
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As we are supposed to be trying to reduce the dependence on the motor car would it not be an idea to insist if any new shop or business opens then they supply parking for customers on their own land if they deem parking necessary? Councils would not have to supply any parking at all. This applies to new housing would it not work for traders as well? Just a thought?  


It doesn't apply to new housing - to the contrary urban housing developments are encouraged to supply less than one car parking space per flat.  Parkway being a case in point.  It the planners' way of helping to slow urban traffic down by encouraging on street parking - which WBC can then charge for.
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I'm talking about all of them.


There are not very many of them left now.
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I have come to this thread a bit late but I am enjoying it re the traffic wardens.

This is a correct bit of information.

When I attended the WBC budget meeting the leader of the council was very proud to announce that parking in West Berks brought in £1.5m in revenue (last budget before the recession, and the majority of this surplus came from Newbury) and this helped to keep the rates down. Then the recession came along they had the bright idea of putting charges up by 25% and introduced the traffic wardens, eventhough he was reported in the NWN saying he intended to do everything he could to help business in West Berks. The NRA and the TCP both said wait until the new car park in Parkway is opened before doing either.

The next buget I saw had parking turn from a £1.5m surplus to a £400k loss becaus of the recession and the above activity. A master stroke in planning and budgetry control. And they still got back in.
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Yes.  Quite incredible, isn't it.
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Yes.  Quite incredible, isn't it.
Quite incredible that a thread entitled "Major power failure in Newbury Town Centre" has ended up on the subject of parking, again.

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Quite incredible that a thread entitled "Major power failure in Newbury Town Centre" has ended up on the subject of parking, again.

It happens all the time.

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Quite incredible that a thread entitled "Major power failure in Newbury Town Centre" has ended up on the subject of parking, again.



Bless! I bet you are proud of them User really aren't you? See you are not the only one that is capable of deflecting a post?  

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Quite incredible that a thread entitled "Major power failure in Newbury Town Centre" has ended up on the subject of parking, again.



Whoa, criticism of WBC by I am Spartacus, let's see if we can change direction.
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Whoa, criticism of WBC by I am Spartacus, let's see if we can change direction.


That's a bit rich from someone who had a go at getting WBC into this thread, firstly, jokingly in reply 2, then a full on pop at WBC in answer 12!
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That's a bit rich from someone who had a go at getting WBC into this thread, firstly, jokingly in reply 2, then a full on pop at WBC in answer 12!


Yea, good one. Full pop, in 12, is that a record.
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